The BAVS FAQ

Questions about teachers


Do I need a teacher?
How can I get started without a teacher?
How much will a teacher cost?
Where can I find a teacher?
A potential teacher was discouraging. Help!
What qualities should I look for in a teacher?
How long should my lessons be?

Do I need a teacher?

The violin is one of the most difficult instruments to learn. Though there has been a great deal written about how to play the instrument. much of it is targeted at students who are seeking a supplement to their teacher or a reminder of the correct things to do, or at violin teachers themselves. Because everyone is physically somewhat different, each violinist ends up with a different approach to the instrument. Because of these physical differences, it is extremely difficult to learn to play from a book or from a video. Furthermore, this kind of instructional material represents the viewpoints of multiple people, often belonging to different "schools" of thought about the correct technical and musical approaches to the instrument, and thus can provide contradictory advice.

A good teacher understands how to help a student discover the approach that will work for them, and can provide instruction on the proper technique, advice on musical approaches, and assistance in developing the student's ear. Learning to listen critically, and determine how the sounds produced map to physical movements, is an extremely important skill for a violinist to develop.

Though it is not impossible to begin to learn the instrument on one's own, progress is likely to be much more rapid, and the frustration level far lower, if a competent teacher is obtained.

[Last update: Tue Apr 11 01:31:54 2000.]


How can I get started without a teacher?

If you cannot afford a teacher, or none is available in the area where you live, you should try for the next-best thing -- see if you can find someone who plays the violin to at least show you a few basics. Otherwise, you'll have to resort to books and videos.

Southwest Strings sells instructional videos. If you have played another instrument, you might want to try getting Helen Martin's Secret Weapon Video: Violin for Musicians, which has received some strong recommendations.

Many books on the violin are not aimed at beginners; it would be preferable to choose books that are. However, for good pictures and detailed explanations, try Ivan Galamian's Principles of Violin Playing and Teaching, 3rd Edition and Simon Fischer's Basics.

[Last update: Sun Sep 16 01:17:41 2001.]


How much will a teacher cost?

A poll of BAVS members indicates that roughly four-fifths (80%) of the group's membership pays between $10 and $24 for 30 minutes of lesson time -- i.e., at least $20, but less than $50, for an hour-long lesson.

The cost of lessons is closely related to the cost of living in your area, as well as to the skill of the teacher. On the low end, a college student majoring in music might teach for as little as $10 an hour; on the high end, an excellent teacher in a major metropolis might charge as much as $150 an hour. In general, it is probably reasonable for you to pay between $10 and $50 for an hour-long lesson.

The policies of teachers with regard to the payment of fees, and cancellations, vary widely. Some teachers require that, once you become established as their regular student, there is payment up-front for a month of lessons, which allows the teachers to be able to predict their income and shields them from last-minute cancellations.

Also, if you are enrolled in a program (community music school, college or conservatory adult extension, Suzuki program, etc.), you can expect to pay some kind of additional program fees, usually on a per-semester basis. Often, such programs charge a sum for an entire semester, which then includes a certain number of private lessons and other services; in this case, you pay the program and not the teacher directly.

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Where can I find a teacher?

There are many ways to find teachers. Here are some suggestions:
  • Check to see if there's a community music school in your area, or if a nearby college or conservatory has a preparatory program. Many such programs have divisions for adults and welcome adult beginners; if not, they are a good source for names of teachers.

  • If you are interested in learning via the Suzuki Method, check to see if there is an organized program in your area. If so, they will have a list of teachers, who would be willing to teach outside the context of the program. Some such programs may also be open to adults.

  • Ask your local luthiers for recommendations. Bigger shops often keep lists, and the folks there will know the scuttlebutt on who is supposed to be good.

  • Call the music departments of local colleges. Find out if any of the instructors teach privately. Ask about recent graduates with a talent for teaching. See if they have any other recommendations for local teachers.

  • Many school districts keep lists of recommended private teachers. Call the district and ask if they have such a list. (The string teachers at local schools may also teach privately; sadly, these people often aren't very good.)

  • Look at the rosters of the local performing arts groups. Many of these people teach. Also, call the offices of the major groups; often, they will be able to recommend someone, whether or not they play in that group.

  • Contact the local Music Teacher's Association, and get their list of teachers.

  • Talk to other people who play, or who have children who play. Find out who they (or their children) study with, and what they think of them. Ask about who their friends (or children's friends) study with, and what their reputations are, and get the gossip about who is and isn't good in general in the area.

  • Check the classifieds section of the local paper. Sometimes, teachers advertise for students. If not, sometimes local string quartets and the like place ads; chances are that those people also teach, so give them a call.

  • Ask a musician friend to utilize their contacts network and see what recommendations turn up.

  • Do some research on the Web. You can use the rosters obtained from the various previous suggestions as a starting point.

Be aware that the most popular teachers will often have waiting lists -- and others will use the claim of a waiting list as an excuse to turn down a student they don't want to teach. Unless you really have a particular desire to study with a certain teacher, don't wait for a spot on their waiting list to free up -- keep looking for another teacher.

If a teacher turns you down, they can often recommend you to someone else. Teachers at local conservatories can also often recommend past students of theirs whom they feel teach well.

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A potential teacher was discouraging. Help!

In the course of searching for a teacher -- or even just talking to professional violinists in your area -- you may hear that some teachers don't like teaching adult beginners, or they don't feel that adult beginners can successfully learn to play the instrument. Don't let them discourage you. (And you certainly don't want to study with someone who's reluctant to teach an adult, or who doesn't enjoy teaching adults!)

Some teachers have had negative experiences teaching adult beginners. However, one must remember that plenty of teachers have negative experiences teaching children, too!

Teachers often seem to have a fear that their adult students don't know what they're getting into, in terms of the time commitment of daily practice and the sheer number of years needed to become a skilled player; adults with unrealistic expectations often become discouraged within the first two years, and quit. Don't let this be you!

Teaching adult students does present challenges in overcoming reduced physical flexibility (compared to a child), but it's certainly not insurmountable (though certainly ailments like arthritis will present serious problems).

Also, some teachers are uncomfortable with the greater degree of equality that exists between the teacher and the adult student -- there is a lack of control that exists with children. Others are not sure how to communicate in a teaching setting with adults.

Many teachers are delighted to have adult students, who genuinely want to be learning the instrument rather than being forced by parents, and therefore exhibit commitment and enthusiasm that they don't often see in children. Look for those people.

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What qualities should I look for in a teacher?

It can take some time and effort to find a violin teacher that you like. Some questions you may want to ask a potential teacher include:

How long have they been teaching? What skill levels and ages, and when in their career?
Experience makes a vast difference; the longer a teacher has been teaching, the more likely they are to have seen and dealt with particular student problems. Teachers who are excellent with children or even teenagers may not be good with adults, and vice versa. Superb teachers of advanced students may not have a gift for teaching beginners the basics of the instrument. It's generally preferable to have a teacher who takes beginners because they enjoy teaching beginners, rather than because they don't have the skills to teach advanced students, but the latter may nonetheless provide excellent instruction to the beginner.

Are they actively involved in performing? Do they play chamber music professionally, play in one or more professional orchestras, give recitals, play concertos as a soloist with orchestras, etc.?
While a teacher does not need to be a phenomenal performer, they should be capable of performing at the professional level, even if they don't choose to do so. As students advance, they usually find the need to switch teachers, since as the technical difficulties increase, the teacher's own level of technical skill needs to be correspondingly higher.

What was their training? What conservatory did they graduate from? What degree did they obtain? Who were their primary teachers (not just people they played workshops with)?
This information often lets you take a baseline guess at the teacher's abilities and style. Performance degrees from schools such as Juilliard, Curtis, the Manhattan School of Music, the Cleveland Institute, or Eastman, and/or a teacher such as DeLay, Galamian, Gingold, Bronstein, or Brodsky usually indicate a high level of achievement. A teacher with a degree in performance is likely to be a better violinist than one with a degree in music education, but the latter may be just as good a teacher for a beginner, if not better.

It is critically important that you like and respect your teacher. You should enjoy working with them, and their teaching style should mesh well with your learning style. A teacher may have a studio full of superb and happy students, but that doesn't necessarily make them the right teacher for you. A good teacher should understand that you're an adult, and will therefore think and question more than a child would.

It is perfectly okay to "audition" several teachers (take a single lesson from them) before you decide who to study with; you should let your potential candidates know that you're shopping around up-front, though. It is also okay to switch teachers later on, though you should let your current teacher know a little in advance, make sure that you're up-to-date in your payment for lessons, and politely explain why you're moving to another teacher.

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How long should my lessons be?

A poll of the BAVS membership indicates that, of those who study with a teacher, roughly 90% take lessons weekly. This is the expected norm for private teaching, though many teachers are willing to have somewhat greater scheduling flexibility with adult students, in order to accomodate the less predictable lives of adults.

Children typically begin the instrument with a 30-minute weekly lesson; this is also not uncommon for adults. However, adults, with their greater powers of concentration, can often immediately benefit from a 60-minute weekly lesson. Some pedagogues have recommended that beginners take two 30-minute lessons a week, because this provides greater opportunity for quick correction to the physical errors that inevitably occur; this approach, however, has not been commonly adopted by teachers.

You should probably expect to have an hour-long lesson, weekly.

[Last update: Sun Sep 16 02:46:15 2001.]


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